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[edit] First reaction upon seeing a Metroid
The first Metroid game I ever played was Metroid Prime 2: Echoes, in which Tallon Metroids do make an appearance. Because of this, I didn't realize that the Metroids were basically villains. I saw a Metroid in a tube in a Space Pirate base, and I didn't scan it. I freaked a bit, because the room was kind of creepy, and I heard the Metroid's creepy cry before I saw it. I saw it in the tube, and thought it was kind of cute. I looked at the little guy, and the environmentalist in me came out. I thought to myself "I'm gonna set you free." Guess who didn't know that Metroids suck the energy from one's head? Guess who just sat there after breaking the tube? Yeah, "Run free, little g-AAAAAGGGHHHHH!!! GET IT OFF!!! GET IT OFF!!!" I also didn't know, at the time, how to get a Metroid off, and so the Metroid killed me. I have, of course, learned to ALWAYS SCAN FIRST, and fire without mercy at anything that moves. I have also learned how to properly deal with Metroids in nearly every Metroid game. Regardless, it's still a fun story. Kriim Ianga 06:24, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Funny. In Prime 1, I went in the room with the lone metroid and looked at it. After I scanned it, it tried to kill me! Thank god for super missles! Samusiscool3 talk{ROLLBACKAH} 00:22, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Questions
When the Chozo created the metroids, what did they use for DNA? I know the Alimbic used leech and reptile DNA for the quadtroid, so what did the Chozo use? At least one species DNA they may have used is the meboid, due to similarities between both name and with the larval metroid. Dark Ridley 02:42, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
The name has nothing to do with it, since Metroid is simply 'ultimate warrior', not a portmanteau of its genetic origin. I don't think there is any canon detail about the genetic makeup of the Metroids, though. Dazuro 14:43, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Didn't Metroids (or a very similar creature) appear in "Kid Icarus", another game by Nintendo? Dark Ridley 02:18, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, if i remember right it was called a "Komayto". Heh, Kid Icarus was a good game.
Should that be mentioned as "Appearance in other Media" or something? Dark Ridley 02:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Heh, yeah it probabley should lol. Piratehunter 03:42, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
They may have used Ripper DNA, for levitating abilities, perhaps, Meboid, for a dense central nuclei that would allow them to contenctate more imporatant functions into a single mass, letting them worry less about the risk of organs, and their leeeching abilties may be similar to how Samus can rebuild her suit and provide ammo for it from dead creatures, except a Metroid can do it from the living. User:Tuckerscreator 12:58, 20 December 2008
- Don't the Rippers use some form of thrust? At least, the Rocket Rippers are seen to. SteveZombie 13:35, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
My first time was prime 1,i saw it and knew that in a base that scared the shit out of me(i was sooo young,the orpheon scared me)with shadow pirates i shot it away and i understand now of the workings.crud article above me.
[edit] Breathing room
So, I just got done replaying Corruption and I noticed that in a room of the GFS Valhalla you can see dozens of Metroids flying around outside of the ship. Should I note somewhere that by unknown means, the Metroids can breathe without any oxygen? Because they can also breathe underwater, as illustrated in Metroid II Parkersvx90210 21:57, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
You know, I don't think that Metroids actually breathe by any known means, if they do at all. They're such strange creatures, I wouldn't put it past them. Armantula513[ADMIN] (Talk•Contribs) 22:01, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Theory
On SR388, I believe that the metroids went through the advanced life cycles most likely due to their major prey was the X-Parasites, which were a highly mutagenic species. Anyone here agree with me? Dark Ridley 00:06, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
I do,but think about this: in all of the metroid games you see an evolutionary cycle depending on the planet,right?We all know that metroids evolve depending on their planet and prey(The x)so they evolve on sr388 to a queen metroid.So if you change the slightest thing in their diet it will trigger a different evolutionary pattern.
Also in mp3, it says once they took the metroids to the pirate homeworld,they began to behave and lose a little bit of aggressiveness.I wonder what they would grow to be on that planet.Also on Tallon IV, you see a hunter metroid,right?But metroids don't reach full maturity untill they can reproduce.So I also wonder what the last form of that one is.The Metroid Prime can reproduce,so it's in it's last form.Did it obsorb the laviathan then reach full maturity or did it find the laviathan,obsorb it and abilities,then reach full maturity?If ii's the first one,the hunter metroid would look a little like the Metroid Prime.Cody 21:42, 15 November 2008 (UTC)M110Cody 21:42, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
[edit] I don'd get it.
In Super Metroid, it says that the super metroid is fully grown.But in metroid 2 it says metroids are fully grown when they reach a queen.Probably the evolution on planet thing.Anyone have any comments?
- It is fully grown for a metroid exposed to gamma rays. BTW: A fully grown metroid in metroid II is the Omega Metroid. The MarioGalaxy2433g5 {talk/contribs/Logs} 02:03, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
Sorry mariogalaxy, but omega is not the last form.The last form of a metroid is when it can reproduce.So the queen is the last form.Cody 21:41, 15 November 2008 (UTC)m110Cody 21:41, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
I think that the Super Metroid was deprived of some nutrient only found on SR-388 that it needed to grow and mature, so it continued to grow and grow without ever reaching puberty. And Cody, the MarioGalaxy is right. the Omega Metroid is the last non-mutative stage in the Metroid life cycle seeing as how there's only one Queen at a time. LONG LIVE THE SQUEES!!!
I have a theory regarding Metroid evolution. It could be that Omega Metroids are the final form of their kind. Think bees. I might be wrong, but aren't there specific larvae that will grow up to be queens? Here's my idea: When whatever it is matures into a Queen Metroid and can start producing eggs, might it be possible that her first few eggs are slightly different? Maybe the difference in the first few eggs could spark their early development down a different track that helps them grow into new Queen Metroids, while the rest of the eggs simply grow into Omega Metroids... Ha ha, I hope I didn't screw anything up here. This is my first time doing anything like this on a wiki. XIronGolemx 06:31, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
There seems to be a big debate wether or not Queen Metroid is a life cycle stage or just a seperate Metroid altogether. I think it's obvious that the queen is a completely seperate individual and there is an egg she makes to produce a queen. So I beleive that due tot he proximity of the Omega Metroids to the queen that they are the drones that mate with her, as well as her guardians. A fully grown SR388 metroid is an Omega, not a queen. Parkersvx90210 07:07, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Life Cycle
Just for anyone who dosen't understand the different types of metroids on each planet, here is a guide to help. Metroids have different Life Cycles depending on which planet they are raised. Below is a chart explaining the known Life cycles.
QUEEN
/*
OMEGA
/
ZETA
(P) || || /
HOPPING || || GAMMA
METROID || || /
\ || || ALPHA
(P) METROID <*Unknown PHAZON || || /
HATCHER evolvutionary METROID || METROID || METROID
variant \ || | || /
MINIROID || LARVA || LARVA
\ || | || /
(Pirate || (Zebes) ||
Homeworld)|| ___ ___ ___ ||(SR388)
=========================== (EGG) ============================
(Tallon|| ___ === ___ ||(Aether/Dark
IV) || || Aether)
/ || || \
INFANT >Phazon Exposure> TALLON METROID(RED)
/ || || > Ing Possession
(P) FISSION <Heavy< TALLON METROID DARK METROID
METROID Phazon /
Exposure HUNTER
(P)
Key: \,/,| = Natural Growth *\,/*< = Only select creature(s) <* = an unnatural select few mutation > = Unnatural Mutation ||, == = seperation between systems ___ ___ ___ (EGG) = EGG ___ === ___ (Planet) = Planet/ System in which Cycle occurs
Anomalies:
- Metroid Prime
a (P) idicates where Prime may' fit in. (after unknown mutational variables)
- Hopping Metroid and Metroid Hatcher
Unknown evolutional variant from Metroid Hatcher. Pirate scans indicate that they were exposing eggs on the homeworld to 'unkown alien chemicals', this is likely to create the Metroid Hatcher and not the Hopping Metroid since Hatchers only appeared in place where pirates had been, and only Hopping and Phazon metroids appeared on Phaaze. Therefore, the Hatcher is a mutation and the Hopper is the natural transformation of the Phazon Metroid.
Hope that helps people to understand the life cyles better. I don't know, but is it possile for this to go in the article? Oh and sorry for editing this so much arfter posting it, i just wanted to get it right. Hellkaiserryo12 19:52, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- This is a great chart. But between the Metroid Hacter and the Phazon Metroid you have "unknown Evolutionary variant." Do you think it might be the Hunter Metroid, as it looks (to me) like a link between the two?
User:Tuckerscreator 5:17 17 March 2009
I think he means it's like an alternate life cycle or something?76.3.217.65 13:09, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- Well, considering that the Hunter Metroid is a phazon enhanched Tallon Metroid, and Phazon Metroids are originally Tallons, it would make sense i suppose. I think they are linked, but like the Tallon Metroid, whose evolution could go either way, I think the phazon metroid may have turned into a Metroid Hatcher in that way, or by enhancing them with "Pirate Chemicals" (not just phazon). Hellkaiserryo12 18:11, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
The way I see it prime is a hevly evolved hopper metroid and the hacher is the result of the DNA of a phazon metroid Being combined with a young levathan. JosephK19 22:44, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
But why would Dark Samu want to waste a perfectly good Leviathan on a lowly Metroid?--Tuckerscreator 22:55, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
She had nothing to do with it. A phazon metroid was floting around trided to pass through the young leviathan and found is DNA merged. JosephK19 08:12, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
But the the young Leviathan was inside the womb, where it couldn't be reached. Also, even if it did, how it the trait get passed on?--Tuckerscreator 17:13, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Interesting theory. But it does'nt sound very plausable. HellKaiserryo12[ADMIN] (Talk•Contribs) 18:27, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Baby Metroid Queen?
I just realized: the first Metroid featured in the manga: Wouldn't this be the Metroid that grew up to become the Metroid Queen?--Tuckerscreator 20:30, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
- Not necessarily. Has it even been confirmed that Omegas turn into Queens? And either way, just because it's the prototype doesn't mean it gave birth to all the rest--they easily could have created the queen later on, after experimenting with creating metroids to begin with--i.e. Pyonchi's little buddy here. Dazuro 21:01, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, it never shows that Metroid there turning into a Omega, then to a Queen. It's been theorized that Queens may have separte life cycle. But i think it makes more sense for that little critter to be the Metroid Queen and the rest were hatched later.--Tuckerscreator 21:56, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
- Queen Metroid! Not Metroid Queen.
- Yeah, good chance. We can't say that it is for certain, though.
- Queens are not "separate". They take some path from the larva. (@ 1:27) ChozoBoy [ADMIN] (Talk/Contribs) 23:08, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
- That dialogue never mentioned a queen. 1:27 says "Omega." Dazuro 23:23, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
All right then. Should we add this information about the Metroid Queen possibly being the same first Metroid featured in the Manga? Speaking of which, we should rename the Metroid (character) page. It's too hard to find and people are more likely to type in Infant Metroid or Metroid Hatchling.--Tuckerscreator 23:26, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
- Why would we mention that? There's no evidence whatsoever--not to mention that we aren't even sure if queens come from the regular evolutionary path. Dazuro 23:29, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
Well, it seems logical that the first Metroid created would likely have been created with the capacity to reproduce, as the Chozo weren't going to stick around and make more, having been robbed of Zebes and its technology. So it's logical to say that that individual grew up to the Queen.--Tuckerscreator 23:32, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
- No. It's not. The Chozo didn't know they were about to lose their planet. And they specified that "metroid production was underway" or something to that effect--the point is, they made it quite clear that they would create more than one on their own. The logical assumption from there is that they eventually realized this was too slow, and thus created a Queen instead. Or they were waiting to see if the species lived up to its expectations before mass-breeding them. Or about a million other possibilities. There is absolutely no reason to believe this larva became the queen, and thus absolutely no reason to mention it on this page. Of course, if Sylux is any indication, a complete lack of any evidence whatsoever means nothing in the face of "BUT IT MIGHT BE!!", so chances are this bullshit's going to get added anyway, then I'll correctly remove it, then Chozoboy'll get pissy at me, and we get to have this whole cycle again. Fun times. Dazuro 23:38, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
We only see one Metroid being shown to the Chozo council. and they speak of it as though there is only one. They probably would engineer a Metroid to be able to progress to a Queen, so that if the first Queen dies, it can lay an egg before hand with a Metroid inside that has the capacity to become a Queen unlike most of the others. If not, then we run into the problem of: what would the Chozo do if the Queen dies before it should, and they are not around to make another?--Tuckerscreator 23:47, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
- Ridiculous and overspeculative. No matter how much you try to logic it (and it's failing miserably, for the record), there's no in-game evidence whatsoever. Dazuro 00:31, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
Of course there is no in-game evidence! The manga was written years after Metroid II came and back then people had no idea that the Chozo created Metroids. I definetely feel this information should be put Queen Metroids oage, since the Metroids seem to have been created not that long ago, it is pretty safe to assume that the Queen is the first Metroid, even if it can't be said for certain. And, Dazuro, there is no need to resort to insults to debate someone because even if they can take it without having their feelings hurt, they will likely take you far less seriously.--Tuckerscreator 23:40, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
- There's no in-manga evidence either. Information should not be added when it's completely baseless speculation based on an assumption that has never been put forth in a single line or screen of any game, comic, Web site, or interview. It should NOT be added to the Queen's page until you can provide anything beyond "it makes sense." Especially since it doesn't. And how exactly is it "resorting to insults" to say "by the way, there is absolutely no evidence in any media whatsoever and your claims are baseless" when there is absolutely no evidence in any media whatsoever, and your claims are, in fact, baseless? Whiny bitch. (Protip: THAT could be considered an insult, and I apologize in advance.) Dazuro 02:51, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Fluidic Stuff
Quick question: Why is it stated that when a Metroid feeds on the mysterious 'life energy', there is no removal of bodily fluids when Super Metroid directly contradicts this?
The Hatchling quite clearly leaves behind dried out corpses that crumble to dust at the slightest touch.
This is also seen on the Valhala in Corruption.
~SjadoJai
- As far as I can see, those are the only two instances in which Metroids are seen to leave only a brittle husk of their victims. In the case of the Phazon Metroids it may be assumed that this is a consequence of mutation in the parasite, and in that of the Super Metroid, well, maybe its sucking abilities are just that freaking strong; its stage of growth is an anomaly after all. The standard Metroids in Zero Mission are shown to leave unaltered corpses, as are even the Dark Tallon Metroids from Echoes. SteveZombie 20:44, September 24, 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Hatchers
I don't think Metroid Hatchers are actually Metroids. They behave completely differently (no sucking energy), look nothing like Metroids, have vulnerable tentacles and weaknesses to beam weapons, and I don't think the MP3 scans call them Metroids. It seems to me they are a seperate species, probably engineered/adapted to spawn Metroids. 68.42.83.249 02:08, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
- The queen metroid never sucks energy and so doesn't metroid prime or the omega.(Metroid101 02:12, September 26, 2009 (UTC))
- How's about all my other arguments? Also note the naming system: "Metroid Hatcher" indicates "life-form that hatches Metroids," while "Hatcher Metroid" indicates "Metroid that hatches life-forms." And I know Metroid Prime is a counterexample, but typically "Prime," in terms of the subscript function meaning first, is spoken/written second. 68.42.83.249 02:25, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
- They suck energy with the tentacles. Hunter Metroids are still counted as Metroids aren't they? And They do look like Metroids, if you notice the top section at the back has the jellyfish-like membrane of a Phazon Metroid. And why would it give birth to a completley different species? I see no sense in your theory. HellKaiserryo12[ADMIN] (Talk•Contribs) 12:47, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
They don't suck energy with the tentacles, they only hit with them. The feature you mentioned is just one of those obligatory clumps of Phazon. And as I said, they seem more like they were made for the purpose of hatching Metroids; they don't do it naturally. Remember, they're Phazon-mutated. I'll go check the scans, since you're skeptical. QueenSamus 14:22, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
- Hmm, I think you're right. The scans mentions it has "lost the ability to phase," meaning it could at one point...indicating it used to be a Phazon Metroid/some kind of Metroid. I wouldn't say that's proof, but it makes it likely enough that I won't argue. Plus, they do look like overgrown Hunters. Oh, and "Hatcher Metroid" would be a better name, they're bucking the trend. QueenSamus 14:29, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
It's good you checked. I totally agree with Hellkaiserryo12. And by the way, regualer Metroids are vulnerable to beam weapons. 
Snakeboss14
- Yup. Tallon, Hunter, and Phazon Metroids DO take damage from regular beams. It just takes a heck of a lot longer, is all. DashRaptor 05:19, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Prime Metroids
Do any of you know why do Metroids in Prime 1 and 2 make themselves smaller and invincible temporarily when they have been hit a few times? The same happens with Hunter Metroids, but they make themselves permanentry bigger! Snakeboss14
- I was wondering about that too, on my last playthrough. I know that's what they're supposed to do after you bomb them off, implementing the energy they just drained. I'm pretty sure that's the same thing, but I'm not sure why it happens after they've been shot. Maybe they're draining energy from the weapons fire? :P DashRaptor 02:32, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
I don't know. They are invincible when doing that. In Echoes, I've noticed they do it when only half of their health remains. Snakeboss14
I always thought it was a ploy to make them harder to dispose of. Though I also thought it was because they were using the stored energy to grow larger. This would explain how they do it without having fed on Samus yet. HellKaiserryo12[ADMIN] (Talk•Contribs) 16:14, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, that's kinda what I thought too. In Prime, I noticed it most often after hitting them with my first missile. It could be a response to the damage: using stored energy to increase their size, to make themselves more of a threat. DashRaptor 23:13, September 29, 2009 (UTC)
