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Name of RobotsEdit

Does anybody know the name of the round robots found in Ridley's Lair? I need their names for a upcoming thesis. User:Tuckerscreator 12:29 09 May 2009

Round robots? The only round robot-like things I can think of are the Atomics, but I don't believe those appeared in Ridley's area. Which game do you mean, and can you be more specific about the enemy? My best guess as of now would be the Holtz, as it appears vaguely robotic due to its armor, but it's not really 'round'. As far as spherical critters go, there's the Viola and Multiviola, but those are fireballs and not remotely robots. Dazuro 20:15, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

The robots are encountered in Metroid Zero Mission. There are several types of these robots. There is a blue type, which simply rolls around the walls. There is a stronger gold varient, which behaves the same. But there is also a variant of the gold variety, which flies, has a symbol of some sort on its body, and has several bubblelike spehers orbiting its body as it flies. They are round and about the same size as the Morph Ball. User:Tuckerscreator 13:28 09 May 2009

Uh... you sure you don't mean Violas and Multiviolas? Violas roll around walls and multiviolas have more detail and bounce around rooms. Still, they're not even close to being robots. Dazuro 20:31, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

That sounds like them. But if they aren't robots, then what are they? User:Tuckerscreator 21:33 09 May 2009

Hell, they're just weird fireball aliens. The first game's manual simply called them "simple-structure organisms" or something like that, while Super called them "fiery organisms". That's all we know. Dazuro 20:37, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

In that case, we neeed to fix this article, because it seemed to refer to them as robots. User:Tuckerscreator 13:38 09 May 2009

Yeah, I was wondering about that. I couldn't think of a single robot in the entire area, but didn't wanna change it without a second opinion. Dazuro 20:46, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
So I looked it up (on this very site--might wanna try that in the future, eh?).

"These also appear in the fire region. You have to be extra careful of them as they move much faster. These are the products of the life force that Mother Brainbreathes into the molten rock. They have the same attacking power as the Holtz and the Dessgeega from the same habitat." There you go. They're basically mini-Thardus made from molten rock instead of Phazon ore, as far as I can tell. Dazuro

That shoots a bit of a hole in my theory, but I guess I can live with it. User:Tuckerscreator 13:12 10 May 2009

Horizontal...? Edit

Well, in ZM, I noticed that Kraid's Lair has a tall emphasis (no sideways scrolling) and Ridley's has a short emphasis (no up/down scrolling.). Oh, and the closest I have to robots in ZM in Ridley is the Holtz, fyi 24.94.89.214 22:46, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

That's odd. I think I'll actually count up the different rooms. "My name is AdmiralSakai, and I approve this message." 22:59, October 22, 2011 (UTC)


Ridley Kraid
Horiz. 15 13
Vert. 7 7
Square 10 10

I don't really think those numbers suggest a pattern, unfortunately. Probably just a coincidence, like the seeming importance of the number 3. "My name is AdmiralSakai, and I approve this message." 23:18, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

I meant, look at the map. Kraid has no sideways scrolling, and Ridley has no up and down scrolling in their map screens. And, yes, I am finishing my Unknown Items Work cheat run today. Ridley can only take 4 charged Plasma/Wave/Ice/Long beam shots! Oh, and if you're wondering, be careful with what you do. If the ship's there, you can't take the Power Bomb in the Landing Site. Make sure it's not there, with the Always Charged Shots off, then take the tank, then leave the room and activate the Always Charged Shots. That way the ship remains there when you need to escape. 24.94.89.214 00:09, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

... The map is where I got this data. "My name is AdmiralSakai, and I approve this message." 00:37, October 23, 2011 (UTC)

...oh. I had to reset my game because I was stuck. I ended up in the Zero Suit Sequence with-Varia Suit, Charge Beam, Long Beam, Power Grip, all my Missile upgrades. But no Morph Ball, or even an auto-morph thing. So I reset and started in Tourian, said, "Screw it, let's go into Chozodia via Crateria." and that's where I am. But I'll head into Tourian now. 24.94.89.214 01:56, October 23, 2011 (UTC) (And did you see the layout? The map in Kraid was designed to be taller, and Ridley was designed to be wider, because of the long room on the bottom!)

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